Sunday, 24 June 2007

Listen to the Fool Talk (RT 1.9)

Mood: Fiery
[Toot!] Index: 0.2
Communism Bit: Off
Location: Job, of course


Yet another wild, frothing, un-informed rant in the Glorious Rantdom Thurogitts Series, coming in at 1.9, the 27th Comrade presents:

Mbu the colours we wear affect our general moods. Hard to be sad in blindingly-bright lime green. And I'm in deep blood-red, right now. I'm feeling fiery. :o) Could be the t-shirt.
But I'd have no choice. After recycling the Clean Heap twice, I surrendered my clothes for the laundry do. You know that thing where you wake up on Tuesday and grope about for a t-shirt and find nothing? Then, after fifteen minutes of standing over the Dirty Heap, you overthrow your conscience in what will go down as the bloodiest coup d'état since Haile Mariam Mengistu's, and you kick the clothes back to where the Clean Heap is supposed to be.
And the imp on the left shoulder goes like `Ah. See? Did you die? You are the king, here. You decide what's clean and what isn't. Now, the neighbours puppy. Just go kick it about the ribs. You see ...' Shut up, Jude.

I hate to discuss marriage, since a rabbit shouldn't be telling a lion how to hunt (as in, I am totally clueless about this love shit), but I'll give my take—'tis I and I blog! Sparked by some discussion peeps have been having within earshot.
Marriage is not made of two people in love. Only love affairs are. Marriage is made of people (maybe more than two) who love one another. The ones beyond two will usually be children. One can love just about anybody. You can meet a complete stranger and be trapped in a similar situation, and you grow close, and a love grows. That can be translated into a marriage. The reason many marriages end up disappointing is that people go in them thinking it's a love affair. It isn't. It's a lot—actually, just—like a friendship. If your marriage is founded on a friendship, it will survive the Other Woman, because the Other Woman may have the things you have and more (yes, she could be a freak with two of those), but she isn't his bosom buddy, and that matters to guys. Be very, very afraid, woman, if you've never had to tell your guy `Okay, it's alright, baby. Don't cry, don't cry. Cummon, it's gonna be fine.' Someone else is doing it. You aren't his friend enough for him to run to you crying? You aren't his friend enough for him to have gone past the Mating Dance stage with you. Sure, he won't cry when you're just lovin'. But when it becomes a friendship, a working relationship—the kind that will stay around long after he is used to your wrinkles and your quirks and your tempers and your sad truths—he will run to his gentle friend (hopefully you) when he needs a chest to cry on.
Shoulders don't have boobs, silly one.
In short: marriages are friendships first then love affairs next. Maybe never even love affairs. Truth be told, for people who stick together (friends or spouses), it is a long ride of forgiving, compromising, hoping, ignoring the bad, exalting the good, and a near-manic dedication to just trudging on. Life is hard, and marriages are part of life. Idealists are idiots. They have friendships that last decades, and marriages that last months. Don't you think they'd have better marriages if they turned them into friendships? Actually, they just turn friendships into love affairs—and love affairs simply don't last beyond the hormonal rush. You have the mic.*

The BHH Report:
Wwhhoott! Peeps have already written out the reports. Mine is late. But some things that were skipped:

  1. I've not yet learnt to differentiate America and Americans. Sad. JF was giving me a crash course...

  2. Lady was there. Too quiet, though ... We're investigating. ;o)

  3. Dee, Carlo, JF, JF's friend, Lady, um ... (girls are finished?) ... and some guys. Ivan, Colin, me ... the guys don't matter much, do they? ;o)

Don't shake. Or it will take longer.
Reading through, I notice some crude insinuations in the second paragraph. Lemme drop this now so you rip me once and leave me alone: a couple is married long before they walk down the aisle. So, when you say `No Sex Before Marriage', when exactly do you start laying? I mean, are you married just because you've borrowed enough to throw a fat party? Does an event make a marriage? Little wonder so many marriages are crap—how can we tie a marriage to a simple pretentious event? Marriage happens long before the invitations are sent out. That's the truth. It's why Mary, Mother of Jesus, was not yet married to Joseph, just betrothed (as in, girlfriend planning the party), yet their separation would be akin to a divorce. They were already literally married, even before the event. Marriage happens long before the party. And, no, the beer party doesn't mark the beginning of the marriage.

* I used `love affair' wrongly (intentionally) to separate the state of rushing hormones and wild lovin' (like river rapids) from the state of settled, understanding co-existence (where I used `loving one another'—a lot like a tranquil lake). The difference is there, and you know what I'm talking about.

22 comments:

Elle B said...

Hey, I was the first here!!! Yipee. It shouldn't nmatter really but there's some psycho who goes around winning in replies. Better finish quickly before he posts first.

That's exactly how I feel about marriages but on that 'it's okay to have sex since y'all gon get married' business, the jury's still out. I know of people who were so certain and went on and 'did it' and then something got messed: no wedding= second hand goods(for those that attach value tyo that kind of thing).

Hey, let me in on something, Do brothers really prize virginity in their brides or are we just wasting our time? I secretly think it's a waste of time, I mean instead of enjoying your wedding night, you spend it giving a crash course in anatomy. To put it better, "mufunila mu wa"? You dig?

Oh what the hell, atleast I know I replied first, in my heart. I also want to get something straight. Am a firm believer in friends first and then you can add on all the mushy detail butI realise that some brothers set out to vibe chicks and forget the reason why they went there in the first place.

They become content to be friends, hoping one day they will catch her in her towel and then they'll exchange a look so profound. She'll say she's always liked him and blah.

It's only in the movies, boys.

We've been trained to play damn till u guys say it in black and white, emboss it in gold and put flashing lights round it.

There's need to toe the fine line between friend and potential lover. Otherwise, when a chick tells you she's so glad she can talk to you like a brother, you in trouble.You dig?
Thank you for bringing up the topic. Bye

borrowed civilisation said...

Comrade!
These imperialists don't want us realise that there is a civilisation of a difference between a wedding and a marriage! Eloping, cohabiting, et cetera are sins against weddings but are literally marriages! Marriage is the circumcision of hearts! Many times we wed without marrying! Many times we marry without wedding! =))

Savage said...

Everyone here knows who gets MOST of the firsties, right?

So Elle b, I am gonna assume that when you say "but there's some psycho who goes around winning in replies" you are not talking about me.Because if you are, I will take your firstie back and come to your house and throw your telly through the window.

Duksey said...

Only to get back to this marriage????
Ok,i truly agree that marriage is more than just the wo wo haaa feeling of passion.
But i ll keep the rest at no comment coz i have decided for this year this whole marriage thing is too complex for me to click

kissyfur said...

I have plenty Asian friends who all got married off within the same year.So like most people, Im very Skeptic about arranged marriages.

But my friend Krunal made sense when he said, Marriage is not about loving the person you are with. It is about creating a relationship with the person you are with.

Dennis Matanda said...

Rev, dude - you sound more and more capitalist by the day. Marriage Musing is synonymous with Capitalist Musing. And I can only say that marriage sucks ... and then you die. But then before it sucks, its beautiful and all.

Samantha said...

Eh!

cb said...

guys, something must be rolling in comrade’s life considering the way marriage, love & sex are consuming his time lately. personally I find the whole marriage thing abstruse seeing that some marriages which many think won’t last workout pretty fine when those we envy crumble faster than a sack of potatoes. but I agree with comrade on friendship. we must marry folks we get along with very well 2 give success a chance. and 2 you elle b, we guys not only prize the virginity our potential wives; we worship it!

S.A.G.E said...

Stolen waters(sex befoe marriage to me)And 4 some education, cohabbiting and marriage are miles apart like heaven and hell. Ok, back from da diversion. Stolen waters and bread eaten in secret(Again, sex befoe marriage to me)is where the dead crew chilluxes.

'Flee fornication'is wat ma bible tells me. God hath beef with them fornicators and adulterers. Sex befoe marriage y'all n unfaithfulness to yo partner incase u married.

This whole rant of weddin without marryin n marryin without weddin'is 'tryna b intellectual' crap dude n dont even try to get folk confused dawg cos wat u sow u'll always reap.

Even the man after God's own heart know that his buddy(God)rises up with holy indignation for pay day to them fornicators and adultery merchants.

Jus do wat pleases God people lest our intellectualism and hardened hearts send us all to hell.

lulu said...

hi, interesting! this whole thing about love, sometimes i think or rather believe that love traverses the emotions and dwells deep within the commitment one has made, like a vow to be there for somebody and cling to them for better or worse, i think love is more than an emotion coz if it was , then God would be as fickle as it... but it is beyond it all, i am still finding out, so far, i beleieve that we dont fall in love, we grow in love... i donno and with love comes the respect and protection of the other's best interest plus the essence of humanity which the Lord has given us and we defy it by cohabiting... i donno if you understand me... but love is sooooo much more profound than we think...

feather said...

don't agree with you. don't know how to explain though.

Cheri said...

Rev, there is something u are tryna tell us. Is it love? Is it love? Is it love? Is it love that I'm feeling....?

U know that song by Bob and the Wailers?

And marriage????? Dude, u're gonna lose yo virginty anytime soon. Proof that communists also fall in love.

Oh and marriage is about very many things....u'll never know, until u get there.

Heaven! said...

i agree with you when you say that friendship is a foundation for a good relationship...i will tell you this though, however tight we become, do not be crying for me.i totally can't handle a man cring.it is ok but don't do it around me...if that is the measure of our friendship, then please let's try something else.let me hold you, leave evidence on my shoulder(like water or mucus)that you have cried but for the sake of world peace do not let me see you!!

sex before the marriage is legalised=fornication,period!!

Heaven! said...

*crying*

jiwe said...

A very interesting analogy...i had never thought about it that way before...

Aegeus!

joshi said...

Afande jah rastafari..how do u get laid?

meanwhile S.A.G.E is onto something, howz about u break it down for the church folk coz they feathers sure is ruffled!!

scotchbiscuits said...

honestly I have a more substantial comeback but I'm too busy enjoying the new found fact that shoulders have no boobs.

Iwaya said...

I like Jude. Can you please listen to Jude more?

Tandra said...

hmmmmmmmmm

GERALD said...

You have a message for all of us,wama.. that could be the reason why most marrieges are not long lasting.
If the V.p had read this may be he couldn't have gone for Naku.
what of Binaisa and his KOREAN wife where are they now?
What of former V.P Kazibwe and her husband.

The 27th Comrade said...

:-o Mob comments heavy with juice.

@Elle B: Well, in general, I don't think it is okay to have sex mbu since you are going to get married. But when does marriage happen? When you walk down the aisle? No. It happens before. And then ... but, again, I am an utter sucker at this shit. I dunno what I'm yapping about. But I have the opinions, all the same.
Plus, there are guys who prize virginity above sanity. I am glad I am not one of those. Sure, it can be good if the chic you end up marrying is a virgin and all that. But I, for one, think it is more-important that she be caring and understanding and them things. There are things that matter a lot to me in someone I'm entrusting with myself for even a short time, and being a virgin, which may even be found on a terribly-ugly chic without effort, is just too insignificant.

@Henry: I caught you celebrating the exit of a fellow Henry.
And you're right here: marriage - and I mean Church marriage - has changed shape a lot in the times since it was invented. It is clearly a concept that humans control. It is cultural. And cultures are not right/wrong, only different. Since the marriage of Adam and Eve involved no priest, do we write it off? Or the one of Joseph and Mary, which was very different from out concept of `marriage'?
The event doesn't matter. It's a party, period. The marriage is in a whole nuther league.

@Sav: Waa. Iwaya has been getting more than you.

@Duksey: It won't be just this year. It will be forever. Complex and tiring. Forever.

@KissyFur: I'm not about to excuse, on any damn pretext, an arranged marriage. It is evil, it is wrong, and it is a form of slavery that we only tolerate because we are shaking cowards.
When the Revolution comes, all those who support arranged marriages will be shot.
-- The 27th Comrade

@DM: No, no, no! I'm still the good ol' commie. The Communists have a very, very strong place for marriages in the ideology. Some of the most inspiring love stories are those of comrades at war and their women!
And I co-sign, on the marriage thing, there.

@Sam: Eh!

@CB: No! X-(
I'm only consumed a little by sex ... :o) But not love. Love is a hoax.

@SAGE: You never fail me here. And there will come a day when your extremism finds a use in the Revolution. Until then, we can only agree on border cases. Well ... I guess I exhausted my answer up there.

@Lulu: Yeah, and what you describe there is not necessarily an appendage to the beer party. Some animals - excuse this - have lifelong partnerships. Like the Crested Crane. Some even die when their spouse dies. They are shining, glowing examples of marriage. But they never ever see a priest. Seen?

@Feather: :o) I survived, then.

@Cheri: I know every Bob Marley song. Kinda. Well, all those after 1975. With the Wailers.
Other questions and comments: Pass.

@Heaven: :-o You won't stand your guy crying? Looky. He won't waul `waaaaaaa'. The crying I mean is deep anguish. Yeah, tears will be involved, maybe. But no shuddering of wailing chic-style. And that ... you should be okay with!

@Jiwe: Hmm? Hmm. Hmm!

@Joshi: Well, I slip I and I pants off and jump in bed. That's all I remember. I lost manual, also. I think there should be a chic in the bed as well. Or something like that.
And ... I have broken it down for the church peeps.
Like you.

@Scotchie: Munange I also discovered that boobs were lower down. :o)

@Tandra: Hmm!

@Gerald: Exactly. Emphasis on the `long-lasting'. I mean, anybody can have any marriage. The time thing there ... that's the snag.

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